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    The iPhone 5 is still a very good smartphone. Of course, there are people that just buy stuff because others seem to like it or for whatever (unlogical) reason, but you can find these for any product. Seeing how popular apple products are, there are (of course) more people that think that way buying apple products.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R0bR View Post
    Microsoft isn't only competing against Apple, they also can't undercut other OEM tablet makers and I believe that is their primary concern...
    I agree. I think Microsoft intentionally made the decision to bring to market a top-tier device with top-tier pricing, to set a bar for the OEMs while not competing with them. Otherwise it would have been another race to the bottom like the OEMs did with netbooks.
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    Yep, there are always they other OEM to offer lower priced options. The price argument is so poor because even before the pricing and device came out people were demanding low end or below Android pricing and exclaiming that if MS didn't do it the Surface was destined to fail. That is just not true. A good device is worth the money and I think most everybody here agrees the Surface is fairly priced given what it offers compared to the competition. Personally I feel it is a far better value than an iPad or the Nexus 10 given what they offer for their prices. Many people will be able to get a Surface instead of a laptop which is a huge value proposition when you start looking at it that way. Think how many college students can use the Surface instead of a laptop and a tablet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by compnovo View Post
    I agree. I think Microsoft intentionally made the decision to bring to market a top-tier device with top-tier pricing, to set a bar for the OEMs while not competing with them. Otherwise it would have been another race to the bottom like the OEMs did with netbooks.
    Exactly. As much as I wish I could have paid less for my Surface, I think they did the right thing from a product positioning standpoint.

    The hardest thing they have to fight is how well-established the competition is. Most people just buy what overwhelmingly the most popular because its safe and they use all the same apps their friends have. Apple doesn't even need marketing at this point - it has unstoppable momentum. I hope MS can do this - someone needs to keep competition alive.

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    Its somewhat strange. People quoting the Android vs iOS fight count all Android devices. Why is that Surface is getting special treatment.
    I dont think MS was very optimistic about sales to begin with. The Surface was and is meant to be a reference Tablet for OEM's et al.
    Additionally even now their retail channels are very limited. With fairly modest shipments.

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    I have no way of telling how the Surface is selling nationally or internationally, but I recently dealt with two different Best Buys to purchase a Surface (the purchase is the subject of another post, and was not a pleasant experience) and in both stores I was told that they only had one left. Might be salesman BS or maybe they had very few to begin with, but it made me think they were selling well.

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    The numbers should be out tomorrow when MS declares its results.

 

 
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