Well i'd read the article a short while back about Samsung trying to override windows update, and thought who cares, doesn't bother me Until now. Just got a Samsung series 9 ultrabook back from an RAM and am setting things up for my mum, and it has been returned with a fresh install of windows 8 (not 8.1) but cannot even update it to 8.1 because Samsung software is stopping any updates from downloading. I went into programs and features to get rid of samsungs software updater, and look at all this absolute crap that Samsung opts to pre-install on their computers.. xerox photocafe user guide SW updater Support centre Help desk Settings Recovery Norton internet security Norton backup Plants vs zombies Absolute reminder Adobe Reader PowerDVD EAsy file share E-Pop It amazes me that people still buy Samsung stuff. Expensive ultrabook with a blisteringly fast SSD and it's sluggish straight out of the box because of a bunch of bloat. I mean plants vs zombies, really??