Post Your SP3 Non-Docked Operating Resolution & Scaling %

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  1. ChrisPanzer

    ChrisPanzer Active Member

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    I'd really like to see what everyone has theirs set at. I really cannot see how anyone can use this effectively at the native setting.

    Mine: 1440 x 960 @ 150% (via custom Intel driver hack)

    The only way I even begin to use the native resolution is by upping scaling to 200%.
     
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    Native resolution @ 125%
    I have good eyes, small hands and like to have much space. :)
     
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    Enjoy them whilst they last(your eyes), as looking at miniscule text and typefont all day long won't keep them in tip top shape for long.
     
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    In most apps and programs I can still zoom in anytime I want and don't have to waste space for huge toolbars. At this screen size every pixel is important!
    And I'm pretty sure looking at small letters won't harm my eyes.
     
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    Slider in the recommended setting....
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    Native resolution (2160 x 1440), 175% DPI scaling (using "Windows XP" style scaling). Microsoft's automatic DPI calculation for the SP3 screen is 150% scaling, but I find that too small. The next automatic step up from 150% is 200%, but I find that a little too large at normal usage distance from the screen. So, I choose to split the difference (175%).

    175% scaling works very nicely with my 27" Dell P2715Q 4K external monitor (170% scaling would be exact for this particular monitor). So, by manually setting my DPI to 175% for all screens I avoid the absolutely ugly Windows 8.1 automatic DPI scaling between monitors with different DPI's.

    I'd really like to see Microsoft offer user-assignable DPI's per display in Windows 10. This automatic DPI assignment is a complete mess and misses the mark for all but the lowest common denominator of Windows users.
     
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    I think I'm offended at being called the lowest common denominator of Windows users ;)
     
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    Haha, sorry about that. I get a little bit angry about this subject as I feel Microsoft did not do a good job with Windows 8.1's scaling "improvements". When enough people claim they are happy with the way they've implemented it, they have a very good excuse to not improve it.

    As a C#/WPF developer, I know that desktop programs/apps written in WPF can handle multiple DPI's natively. But, for whatever reason, Microsoft only lets Windows Store (Metro) apps dynamically redraw based on the current screen's DPI.

    Further, I think it is a huge step backwards to remove a user's ability to manually set a DPI number. There are a ton of legitimate reasons a user would want to set an arbitrary DPI scaling %. The slider they've provided adjusts all screen's scaling, not just the one you're the dialog is on. Also, it jumps around a lot, trying to round up or down, makes assumptions about the user's distance from the screen and so on. It's just a confusing mess and Microsoft needs to know that it has to be improved.

    //End Rant...
     
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    Wow, yet another thread on the dpi stuff. Popular topic! I can't believe how many folks I've helped with the blog post and regkey file through all this! I thought I was the only one with this issue. Anyway, I've settled on using:
    • undocked: native resolution, 150% scaling
    • docked: 1152x768, 100% scaling (primary external monitor is 21.5" 1920x1080, 100% scaling at same viewing distance as the Surface)

    Chrispanzer, rather than use 1440 AND 150% dpi scaling, you should just set your undocked resolution to 1152x768. That way its only scaled once by the Intel driver/panel. With your current setting, its getting scaled twice, once by Windows and again by the Intel driver/panel.

    1152x768 will give you an effective 187.5% zoom and will let you run modern apps. 200% will not allow you to run modern apps.
     
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  11. B'midbar

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    I'm 2560x1080 on a 29" IPS panel, but the above numbers docked and undocked work very well for me as well.
     
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    For reasons beyond the scope of this message, you should really try to stick to native resolution, and adjust scaling to get the desired size.

    In any case, I use native resolution when undocked, and 2560x1600 on a 30" display when docked.
     

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